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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l19&quot; &gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question for [[Consciousness]] is &amp;quot;What function does it serve?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;This &lt;/del&gt;success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question for [[Consciousness]] is &amp;quot;What function does it serve?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;The &lt;/ins&gt;success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question for Consciousness is &amp;quot;What function does it serve?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. This success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question for &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Consciousness&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;is &amp;quot;What function does it serve?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. This success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question for Consciousness is &amp;quot;What &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;purpose &lt;/del&gt;does it &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;server&lt;/del&gt;?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. This success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question for Consciousness is &amp;quot;What &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;function &lt;/ins&gt;does it &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;serve&lt;/ins&gt;?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. This success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l18&quot; &gt;Line 18:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most of the current discussion on [[Consciousness]] is focused on [[Carbon-based Life Form]]s or their simulation on digital computers. But there is no a priori reason to to exclude other large aggregations of energy. For example it has been argued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Noora Al-Sibai, ''BIOLOGIST SAYS THE SUN MAY BE CONSCIOUS'' https://futurism.com/the-byte/biologist-says-sun-conscious&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that the sun itself is a good place to look for evidence of self-aware behavior.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most of the current discussion on [[Consciousness]] is focused on [[Carbon-based Life Form]]s or their simulation on digital computers. But there is no a priori reason to to exclude other large aggregations of energy. For example it has been argued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Noora Al-Sibai, ''BIOLOGIST SAYS THE SUN MAY BE CONSCIOUS'' https://futurism.com/the-byte/biologist-says-sun-conscious&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that the sun itself is a good place to look for evidence of self-aware behavior.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;===Awareness===&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The question for Consciousness is &amp;quot;What purpose does it server?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; Clearly for most living organisms, awareness of the environment to enable (1) survival of the person and (2) survival of the species is the over-riding purpose. For humans the overall goal of survival is broken down into tasks that need to be completed on that path. In other words, [[Consciousness]] is a agent for change of the current environment into one that is more conducive to a comfortable existence on the path to survival. This success of this drive can lead to self-importance and other less admirable attributes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christof Koch, ''Then I am Myself the World'' Basic Books (2024-05-07) ISBN-13 ‎ 978-1541602809&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Solutions==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Solutions==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tom: /* Full Title or Meme */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Full Title or Meme&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Full Title or Meme==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Full Title or Meme==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A simple idea of &amp;quot;self aware&amp;quot; well-known by most people, becomes harder to define as digital systems get better at doing things that people do.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A simple idea of &amp;quot;self aware&amp;quot; well-known by most people, becomes harder to define as digital systems get better at doing things that people do.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Consciousness]] may become conflated with awareness of the physical environment, which can cause confusion. A person dreaming (either night or day) may not be aware of their environment, but may have a rich [[Consciousness]].&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Context==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Context==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tom: /* Problems */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Problems&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l11&quot; &gt;Line 11:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* David Chalmers describe the hard problem as finding an answer to why we have any sense of knowing that what we know is provided by sensory perception. We now know that without comparing our internal knowledge to reality we fall into hallucination. This has been shown by GPT which has no sense perception and hallucinates wildly.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* David Chalmers describe the hard problem as finding an answer to why we have any sense of knowing that what we know is provided by sensory perception. We now know that without comparing our internal knowledge to reality we fall into hallucination. This has been shown by GPT which has no sense perception and hallucinates wildly.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* An early attempt at a definition by Thomas Nagel recognized that trying to reduce [[Consciousness]] was never successful. It always had be be addressed as a feature of a real thing. He asked the question &amp;quot;What it's like to be a bat?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Thomas Nagel, ''What it's like to be a bat?'' (1974-10) https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Nagel_Bat.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His answer is that it must come from the idea of what it is like to be something. But that misses the point of knowing where to be conscious is it enough to be like a human, or does it need to be what is it like to be one particular human? In other words, is it necessary to be a unique identifiable thing first, or can be be what is it like to be a member of class of things (humans, bats, etc.)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* An early attempt at a definition by Thomas Nagel recognized that trying to reduce [[Consciousness]] was never successful. It always had be be addressed as a feature of a real thing. He asked the question &amp;quot;What it's like to be a bat?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Thomas Nagel, ''What it's like to be a bat?'' (1974-10) https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Nagel_Bat.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His answer is that it must come from the idea of what it is like to be something. But that misses the point of knowing where to be conscious is it enough to be like a human, or does it need to be what is it like to be one particular human? In other words, is it necessary to be a unique identifiable thing first, or can be be what is it like to be a member of class of things (humans, bats, etc.)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* What it's like to have [[Artificial Consciousness]]. (Click on the link.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* What it's like to have [[Artificial Consciousness]]. (Click on the link.) &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;And could that be related in any way to a living [[Consciousness]]?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;* If an [[Artificial Consciousness]] did exist would it be something that could be downloaded from one device and uploaded to another?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;* Many religions now believe that a [[Consciousness]], which they often call a soul, is downloaded at birth and perhaps uploaded at death.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most of the current discussion on [[Consciousness]] is focused on [[Carbon-based Life Form]]s or their simulation on digital computers. But there is no a priori reason to to exclude other large aggregations of energy. For example it has been argued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Noora Al-Sibai, ''BIOLOGIST SAYS THE SUN MAY BE CONSCIOUS'' https://futurism.com/the-byte/biologist-says-sun-conscious&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that the sun itself is a good place to look for evidence of self-aware behavior.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most of the current discussion on [[Consciousness]] is focused on [[Carbon-based Life Form]]s or their simulation on digital computers. But there is no a priori reason to to exclude other large aggregations of energy. For example it has been argued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Noora Al-Sibai, ''BIOLOGIST SAYS THE SUN MAY BE CONSCIOUS'' https://futurism.com/the-byte/biologist-says-sun-conscious&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that the sun itself is a good place to look for evidence of self-aware behavior.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tom: /* Solutions */</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l17&quot; &gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;In 2022, researchers at the Bee Sensory and Behavioral Ecology Lab at Queen Mary University of London observed bumblebees doing something remarkable: The diminutive, fuzzy creatures were engaging in activity that could only be described as play. Given small wooden balls, the bees pushed them around and rotated them. The behavior had no obvious connection to mating or survival, nor was it rewarded by the scientists. It was, apparently, just for fun.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;In 2022, researchers at the Bee Sensory and Behavioral Ecology Lab at Queen Mary University of London observed bumblebees doing something remarkable: The diminutive, fuzzy creatures were engaging in activity that could only be described as play. Given small wooden balls, the bees pushed them around and rotated them. The behavior had no obvious connection to mating or survival, nor was it rewarded by the scientists. It was, apparently, just for fun&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.&amp;quot; Scientists have issued a new declaration. &amp;quot;The empirical evidence indicates at least a realistic possibility of conscious experience in all vertebrates (including all reptiles, amphibians and fishes) and many invertebrates (including, at minimum, cephalopod mollusks, decapod crustaceans and insects)&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tom</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Tom: /* Solutions */</title>
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				<updated>2024-05-06T14:21:23Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l17&quot; &gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2022, researchers at the Bee Sensory and Behavioral Ecology Lab at Queen Mary University of London observed bumblebees doing something remarkable: The diminutive, fuzzy creatures were engaging in activity that could only be described as play. Given small wooden balls, the bees pushed them around and rotated them. The behavior had no obvious connection to mating or survival, nor was it rewarded by the scientists. It was, apparently, just for fun.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;In 2022, researchers at the Bee Sensory and Behavioral Ecology Lab at Queen Mary University of London observed bumblebees doing something remarkable: The diminutive, fuzzy creatures were engaging in activity that could only be described as play. Given small wooden balls, the bees pushed them around and rotated them. The behavior had no obvious connection to mating or survival, nor was it rewarded by the scientists. It was, apparently, just for fun.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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				<updated>2024-05-06T14:20:49Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l17&quot; &gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;In 2022, researchers at the Bee Sensory and Behavioral Ecology Lab at Queen Mary University of London observed bumblebees doing something remarkable: The diminutive, fuzzy creatures were engaging in activity that could only be described as play. Given small wooden balls, the bees pushed them around and rotated them. The behavior had no obvious connection to mating or survival, nor was it rewarded by the scientists. It was, apparently, just for fun.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l17&quot; &gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* At the very simplest level even an amoeba is self-aware to the extent that it can swim upstream in a sugar gradient. This behavior is labeled &amp;quot;tropism&amp;quot; and seldom considered the source of [[Consciousness]] but there doesn't seem to be any basis for this exclusion as the path from tropism to [[Consciousness]] seems to be a straight path. Really the point of any organism is to survive in the [[Ecosystem]] that it inhabits. It seems obvious that the less stable the [[Ecosystem]] the more adaptable the organism must be.&amp;#160; So it would seems that instability is the direct cause of complex [[Consciousness]]. The organisms that did not adapt to changing [[Ecosystem]]s did not survive. Periodic changes, like the seasons, can be adapted by inherited patterns, but instability does not lead to inherited behavior changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Hod Lipson of the Creative Machines Lab at Columbia University decides to address [[Consciousness]] experimentally, since none of the recent philosophers had achieved much just by philosophizing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Pavlus,&amp;#160; ''Curious About Consciousness? Ask the Self-Aware Machines.'' (2019-07-11) Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/hod-lipson-is-building-self-aware-robots-20190711/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “We used to refer to consciousness as ‘the C-word’ in robotics and AI circles, because we’re not allowed to touch that topic. It’s too fluffy, nobody knows what it means, and we’re serious people so we’re not going to do that. But as far as I’m concerned, it’s almost one of the big unanswered questions, on par with origin of life and origin of the universe. What is sentience, creativity? What are emotions? We want to understand what it means to be human, but we also want to understand what it takes to create these things artificially. It’s time to address these questions head-on and not be shy about it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dan Falk, ''Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare'' (2024-04-19) https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==References==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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