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 ===Identity and Freedom===
 Elizabeth Anderson, the chair of the Philosophy department at the University of Michigan, thinks we’ve misunderstood the basis for development of a free and fair society. <ref>Nathan Heller, ''The Philosopher Redefining Equality.'' (2019-01-07) The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/the-philosopher-redefining-equality</ref>
-<blockquote> If you look back at the origins of liberalism, it starts first with a certain settlement about religious difference, Catholics, Protestants—they’re killing each other! Finally, Germany, England, all these places say, we’re tired of these people killing each other, so we’re going to make a peace settlement: religious toleration, live and let live. Then something remarkable happens. People now have the freedom to have crosscutting identities in different domains. At church, I’m one thing. At work, I’m something else. I’m something else at home, or with my friends. The ability not to have an identity that one carries from sphere to sphere but, rather, to be able to slip in and adopt whatever values and norms are appropriate while retaining one’s identities in other domains? That is what it is to be free. </blockquote>
+<blockquote> If you look back at the origins of liberalism, it starts first with a certain settlement about religious difference, Catholics, Protestants - they’re killing each other! Finally, Germany, England, all these places say, we’re tired of these people killing each other, so we’re going to make a peace settlement: religious toleration, live and let live. Then something remarkable happens. People now have the freedom to have crosscutting identities in different domains. At church, I’m one thing. At work, I’m something else. I’m something else at home, or with my friends. The ability not to have an identity that one carries from sphere to sphere but, rather, to be able to slip in and adopt whatever values and norms are appropriate while retaining one’s identities in other domains? That is what it is to be free. </blockquote>
 The question we all need to ask ourselves today is: How do we maintain our freedom in a society that is so rapidly changing into one where every company can learn everything about everybody who is just using a cell phone going about their daily routine?

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 ==History==
-There are certainly historical figures with strong identities, Caeser, Alexander the Great or Ghandi come to mind. But it wasn't until John Locke in England (1690) that the ideas of identity and self for all humanity were well articulated. The idea of the self and one's personal property were further expanded by J. G. Fichte in Germany (1812) with the category of "Freedom" of thought variously called self-activity and self-determination.<ref>J.G. Fichte, ''The Science of Rights'' (1812, in English 1889) https://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/fichte/sciencerights.pdf</ref> This isn't to claim that the concept of identity did not begin with the ancient Greek philosophers; clearly it did.<ref>Adam Nicholson, ''How to Be'' (2023-10-17) ISBN 9780374610104</ref> John Locke believed that personal identity is not based on the substance of the soul or body, but rather on consciousness and memory. He argued that personal identity is a matter of psychological continuity, meaning that as long as one’s consciousness remains the same, their personal identity remains the same as well. This idea could serve as a litmus test for the person-hood of an [[Artificial Intelligence]]. One that they would fail in 2024.
+There are certainly historical figures with strong identities, Caeser, Alexander the Great or Ghandi come to mind. But it wasn't until John Locke in England (1690) that the ideas of identity and self for all humanity were well articulated. The idea of the self and one's personal property were further expanded by J. G. Fichte in Germany (1812) with the category of "Freedom" of thought variously called self-activity and self-determination.<ref>J.G. Fichte, ''The Science of Rights'' (1812, in English 1889) https://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/fichte/sciencerights.pdf</ref> This isn't to claim that the concept of identity did not begin with the ancient Greek philosophers; clearly it did.<ref>Adam Nicholson, ''How to Be'' (2023-10-17) ISBN 9780374610104</ref> John Locke believed that personal identity is not based on the substance of the soul or body, but rather on [[Consciousness]] and memory. He argued that personal identity is a matter of psychological continuity, meaning that as long as one’s[[Consciousness]] remains the same, their personal identity remains the same as well. This idea could serve as a litmus test for the person-hood of an [[Artificial Intelligence]]. One that they would fail in 2024.
 There is a growing consensus,<ref>INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAW CLINIC, ''RIGHT TO IDENTITY'' (2007-11) UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY SCHOOL OF LAW http://scm.oas.org/pdfs/2007/CP19277.PDF</ref> spurred by the humanitarian crisis created by refugees from conflict zones that every human being deserves the right to an [[Identifier]] irrespective of the political turmoil spreading around the world. This is not a new concern as several works of fiction and of history have explored the burden placed on a person without an [[Identifier]] assigned by a recognized country. <ref>Edward Everett Hale, ''The Man Without a Country''. (1863-12) ISBN 978-1494225377</ref><ref>Kurt Vonnegut, ''A Man Without a Country.'' (2007-01-16) ISBN 978-0812977363</ref><ref>Jeff Prebis, Man Without a Country (2015-02-17)

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 https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2024/04/05/the-evolving-landscape-of-non-human-identity/
 ===Technology===
-Identification and Access Management
+[[Identifier and Access Management]] professional tend to get the definition wrong. [[Identification]] is not [[Identity]]. My identity is all that i am. You can try to collapse that into a collection of attributes, behaviors and physiognomy on some computer system, but even then, you still have not captured my identity.
-Identification is not identity. My identity is all that i am. You can try to collapse that into a collection of attributes, behaviors and physiognomy on some computer system, but even then, you still have not captured my identity.
+Some claim that the ship of Theseus problem still needs solving on top of that.  But that is not a real problem for real people. Am i the same person as i was when i was 5. My identity has evolved, my identification is the same.
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		+	Identification is not identity. My identity is all that i am. You can try to collapse that into a collection of attributes, behaviors and physiognomy on some computer system, but even then, you still have not captured my identity.
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		+	the ship of theseus problem still needs solving on top of that too.
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		+	that is not a real problem for real people. Am i the same person as i was when i was 5. My identity has evolved, my identification is the same.

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 “Wherever we see a well ordered arrangement of things or men we instinctively assume that someone has intentionally placed them in that way.” - Michael Polanyi, The Logic of Liberty.
-Like Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" several members of the Austrian school of Philosophy pointed out that human societies organize themselves. It is not clear that such a Spontaneous Ordering is optimal as the path selected really does appear random even thought the tendency is for the resulting order to increase the net production of society.<ref>The Online Library of Liberty, ''Polanyi and Spontaneous Ordering'' https://oll.libertyfund.org/pages/polanyi-and-spontaneous-ordering</ref>
+Like Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" several members of the Austrian school of Philosophy pointed out that human societies organize themselves. It is not clear that such a Spontaneous Ordering is optimal as the path selected really does appear random even though the tendency is for the resulting order to increase the net production of society.<ref>The Online Library of Liberty, ''Polanyi and Spontaneous Ordering'' https://oll.libertyfund.org/pages/polanyi-and-spontaneous-ordering</ref>
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	The Road to Serfdom<ref>Friedrich Hayek, ''The Road to Serfdom.'' (1944) Routledge ISBN 978-0226320595</ref> is a book written in the early part of WWII by Friedrich Hayek, where he warns "of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning." He further argues that the abandonment of individual identity and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, where the bulk of society identifies with a dictator, resulting in the serfdom of the individual, a tribe of national porportions. Hayek challenged a wide-spread view that fascism was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning which focuses exclusively on the health of the state, or in capitalist societies with the Gross National Product, rather than individual identity and well-being. The Road to Serfdom was inspired by the writings of the 19th century French classical liberal thinker Alexis de Tocqueville on the "road to servitude".		The Road to Serfdom<ref>Friedrich Hayek, ''The Road to Serfdom.'' (1944) Routledge ISBN 978-0226320595</ref> is a book written in the early part of WWII by Friedrich Hayek, where he warns "of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning." He further argues that the abandonment of individual identity and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, where the bulk of society identifies with a dictator, resulting in the serfdom of the individual, a tribe of national porportions. Hayek challenged a wide-spread view that fascism was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning which focuses exclusively on the health of the state, or in capitalist societies with the Gross National Product, rather than individual identity and well-being. The Road to Serfdom was inspired by the writings of the 19th century French classical liberal thinker Alexis de Tocqueville on the "road to servitude".
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		+	===Spontaneous Order===
		+	“Wherever we see a well ordered arrangement of things or men we instinctively assume that someone has intentionally placed them in that way.” - Michael Polanyi, The Logic of Liberty.
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		+	Like Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" several members of the Austrian school of Philosophy pointed out that human societies organize themselves. It is not clear that such a Spontaneous Ordering is optimal as the path selected really does appear random even thought the tendency is for the resulting order to increase the net production of society.

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 # Digital Identity: Online representations of individuals, including usernames, profiles, and authentication systems.
 # Social Identity: How people define themselves in relation to groups, such as nationality, ethnicity, religion, or political affiliation.
-# Political Identity: a label for a real or imagined group of people into which an [[Individual]] chooses association or is placed by others. (resident, alien, citizen, property owner, criminal)
+# Political Identity: a label for a real or imagined group of people into which an [[Individual]] chooses association or is placed by others. (resident, alien, citizen, property owner, criminal, voter, party, last vote date)
 I have attached an article from Heather (who i respect) that discusses naming and trust objects without discussing first that we need to have an identifiable object before we talk about any of the tracking stuff. So this is just a gentle suggestion to her and to all readers -- please be clear on what is being identified and that it is the persistent entity and the identifier of that entity that needs tracked.

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 Here are some types of meaning of [[Identity]].
 # Personal Identity: The unique characteristics, experiences, and values that shape an individual’s sense of self.
 # Psychological Identity: The internal sense of self, influenced by memories, relationships, and personal beliefs.
 # Legal Identity: Official recognition by governments, often through documents like passports, driver's licenses, or digital identifiers.
 # Digital Identity: Online representations of individuals, including usernames, profiles, and authentication systems.
 # Political Identity: a label for a real or imagined group of people into which an [[Individual]] chooses association or is placed by others.